If you’re in a challenging season—or walking alongside someone who is—this conversation will meet you right where you are.

In this hopeful and honest episode, I sit down with Dr. Clay Jones and Jeannie Jones to talk about their new book, How Does God Use Suffering for Our Good? Living With Hope While Making Sense of Life. Together, they share the real-life pain that shaped this message (cancer, miscarriages, foster care, and ongoing health challenges), and the seven anchoring truths they repeat to each other when suffering feels overwhelming.

This episode is full of steady, biblical comfort—without clichés—and it will help you reframe suffering through the lens of eternity, hope, and God’s character.

If you're hurting, this episode is your lifeline.. Don't miss it!

And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!

Xo,

Donna

Listen in to learn more :

• [0:04:22] Personal suffering story
• [0:07:35] The 7 truths they repeat during suffering:
• [0:11:42] Truth journals (remembering God’s redemption):
• [0:16:32] “You don’t know what tomorrow will bring”:
• [0:17:22] Fix your focus (looking at Jesus):
• [0:23:36]Why suffering produces endurance → character → hope (Romans 5):
• [0:26:43] Eternity changes the scale of everything

Donna’s Resources:

Order a copy of my latest book -

Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.

It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.

If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.

It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their confidence in their faith.

Connect with Clay and Jeannie

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWymIngKlc1CtKBZ4aMLCHQ

Website - https://clayjones.net/

Purchase the book -https://www.harvesthousepublishers.com/books/how-does-god-use-suffering-for-our-good-9780736992237/?srsltid=AfmBOoqAUBs3q3Pf-0zQ_Xc3Y0z8NYWvM2TFRFPGxOQtrfUZaxtIrxIT

Connect with Donna

Instagram: @donnaajones

Website: www.donnajones.org

Donna’s speaking schedule:

https://donnajones.org/events/

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