Talk About That
John Driver and Jonnie W
How We’re Choosing Hope Instead of Cynicism (Plus Garbage Gifts and First Car Crashes)
September 12, 2024 ● 43 minShare this episode
John gets a present straight from the garbage and starts a militia. Meanwhile, Jonnie wrecks his first car spectacularly and tells us about the longest baseball game in history.
Plus, a conversation about choosing hope over fear and how our actions can make deserts or forests.
Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Bubble Tea: “When you want a drink you can chew.”
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