John shouts at the clouds about the return of a certain hairstyle and tries to come up with photoshoot poses that aren’t awkward. Meanwhile, Jonnie accidentally steals someone else’s luggage on a road trip and tells the story of the world’s foremost school for department store Santas. 

Plus, a conversation about honor culture and the fine line between healthy and toxic when it comes to memorializing flawed people. 

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