
John tells us his elaborate sleeping regimen, and tries to bring back the offeratory in church services. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a case of the "church giggles", and shares the complicated history of The Wizard of Oz.
Plus, a conversation about confirmation bias, and why truthfulness still matters.
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