John puts on his baggiest rayon pants and tells the story of a rogue gang of cursing parrots. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the phrase “goody two shoes” and feels a special calling to the luxury resort community. 

Plus, a conversation about enlightenment and how our continuing knowledge of the universe should deepen our faith, but sometimes has the opposite effect. 

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