Talk About That

John Driver and Jonnie W

Guilt Trips, Fake Cakes, and Cowboy Presidents

August 7, 2026 ● 46 min

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The boys are joined by dear friend and documentary producer Alyson Holland to talk about her new project on Ronald Reagan. John forgets what generation he is in and ponders the last time we had Aly as a guest and almost burned their friendship to the ground.

Meanwhile, Jonnie decides he is exactly as famous as he ever wants to be and wonders whether the world’s longest hotdog was even edible.

Plus, a discussion about a timely quote from the late Tim Keller about the gospel.

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by To Go Boxes: "Can't finish your meal at the restaurant? Let it rot in your own fridge for a few days!"

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