On this episode of Talk About That, we come back to the idea that cynicism is easy and hope is hard. If we’re not careful, we can all be cynics. But what have we built? The things that we grow and build in life that matter most are usually the people with whom we’ve built relationships. Today, John and Jonnie have a conversation about the courage it takes to hope and why the next generation may actually be getting tired of cynicism.

Plus, John doesn't remember a popular clothing brand and almost falls for a piano scam. Meanwhile, Jonnie nearly has a wardrobe malfunction and argues that your blue jeans don't belong in the freezer.

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Bed Bath and Beyond: "When Life Hands You Linens...."

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