Talk About That
John Driver and Jonnie W
Fencepost Turtles, Boat People, and The Pursuit of Happiness
August 14, 2025 ● 42 minShare this episode
John doesn't have time to kayak and doesn't sell his soul (because he got no offers). Meanwhile, Jonnie performs feats of strength at a show, and tells the history of the plastic car made of soybeans.
Plus, a conversation about the pursuit of happiness and why it makes so many of us miserable.
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by LED Lightbulbs: "We last 12 years, give or take 10-12 years."
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