John discovers the subtle difference between prison inmates and referees, and unveils a new jingle candidate for his Quote of the Week segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders whether ancient philosophers would’ve been discouraged if they had put their ideas on Facebook and tells the story of Oprah Winfrey and a wheelbarrow full of fat. 

Plus, a conversation about what liberty really looks like vs. what we think it is. 

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