John stays in a hiking lodge with strangers and tells us why some things are better off being dirty. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a mishap trimming his goatee and reveals the pecking order of entertainers.

Plus, a conversation about Self-Talk and why your words may matter more than you think.

Today's episode is not sponsored by Garage Sales: "When you really want to waste a Saturday in your driveway to make $43.00.”

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