Talk About That

John Driver and Jonnie W

Dopamine, Extra Bread, and Complexity

May 2, 2025 ● 42 min

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John critiques the Big Mac and tries to be productive, but only if he can track it on his phone. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a decade-old video go viral and does a Maypole dance against his Mom’s wishes.

Plus, a conversation about dopamine addiction and the urge to oversimplify problems that need more nuance.

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