John puts himself on the (literal) hot seat and buys a Cadillac made of gold. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us about the "Dancing Plague" of the 16th Century and the strange reason ketchup was invented.

Plus, a conversation about the difference between healthy confidence and a self-destructive ego.

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