You’ve sung his songs in church—Oceans, This I Believe, I Surrender—but now Matt Crocker is stepping into new territory with his solo debut, Interlude. Known as a key voice behind Hillsong UNITED and Hillsong Worship, Matt opens up in this episode of Crosswalk Talk about what it’s like to follow God’s leading outside the familiar rhythms of church music.

We talk about:

• 🎶 The journey behind Interlude and what makes it different from his Hillsong work

• 💡 Writing music outside the worship box—and why it’s still an act of worship

• 🧠 Creativity, obedience, and making something that “costs you”

• 🎤 What he’s learned from decades of songwriting—and what made Oceans stand out

• 🇦🇺 What church life is really like in Australia

Matt gets candid about creating during COVID, trusting God in uncertainty, and what it’s like to hear his songs on the radio years later. If you’ve ever wrestled with whether creative risk can still glorify God, this episode will encourage and challenge you.

🔗 More from Matt Crocker

• 🎧 New album Interlude available everywhere June 2025 | https://www.mattcrockermusic.com/

• Follow @mattycrocker

• Stream “I Wait” and “Two or More” wherever you get your music

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