In this episode, James hosts Amy Williams. Amy is a "hope dealer" working with teens involved in gangs in the Chicagoland area. Here book titled Worth Seeing: Viewing Others Through God's Eyes offers stories of her time in ministry and encourages Christians to see ourselves and others as Christ see us. James and Amy discuss some of the challenges of working between gangs and churches, as well as the promise Amy sees in young men and women who learn to look with eyes that see and listen with ears that hear.

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