Jeremy Boreing on why revolution isn't the answer — and what actually is.

In Part 2 of our conversation, Jeremy makes the case that America doesn't need to tear down the Constitution. It needs to become the kind of people the Constitution was written for. We talk about why every godless revolution in history has ended in blood, why the American founding was different, and why the revolution we actually need is a revolution of the heart.

Then things get personal. We swap favorite films (Braveheart, Ben-Hur, Tombstone, The Godfather), argue about the Beatles, trade Eagles memories from the Sphere, and land on how art — even a small movie with a jazz score — can travel further than you'd ever guess.

We close with the story behind the bent key Jeremy has worn around his neck for 31 years. It's worth staying for.

Timestamps

00:33 Who should run in 2028?
01:51 Conservatism didn't fail — we did
03:33 America's revolution vs. all the others
05:46 Why revolution today would destroy us
07:31 The real revolution is in the heart
08:12 Hardest and easiest people to interview
11:02 Top five favorite films
13:31 Dinner with Churchill, Paul, and Henley
15:33 The hidden hero behind country rock
17:03 Death row meals and Taco Villa
19:12 Desert island songs and the Beatles
23:15 How Ben-Hur led Greg to Christ
26:15 Artists as co-creators with God
27:12 The Wayne Shorter jazz score story
31:01 The story behind the bent key

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