Christine Caine on why the "victim narrative" is destroying a generation—and what the real gospel actually says.

In this conversation, Pastor Greg Laurie sits down with Christine Caine (founder of A21, evangelist, author) for a wide-ranging talk about faith, calling, and the fight against human trafficking.

What we cover:
• Finding out at 33 she was adopted—and how a decade of renewing her mind with Scripture prepared her for that moment
• Childhood abuse, shame, and why "despite" is the real language of the gospel
• Why she believes evangelism is the most unwanted job in the 21st-century church
• Running A21 across 22 countries and what she's learned on the front lines
• 30 years of marriage, 260+ hotel nights a year, and building a life around purpose
• The hardest prayer she's ever prayed
• Why Jesus is coming back—and what that should change about how we live today
• Numbering your days: the practice she started at 22 that still shapes her life

Two evangelists, one long conversation, plenty of laughter along the way.

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Timestamps

00:16 The one-night stand and the plan of God

01:54 A phone call reveals the family secret

06:29 Renewing the mind before the storm hits

10:14 Making pain a tool, not a prison

14:17 Redemption is "despite," not "if only"

18:44 Losing a son and the resurrection witness

22:53 What Jesus did is bigger than what was done to you

29:33 Preaching to the back row, not the front row

34:06 Why eschatology still matters

41:26 The hardest prayer: getting the "want" back

46:28 Marriage built on purpose and the fruit of the Spirit

01:07:12 J. John and the power of another cup of coffee

01:12:03 Numbering your days from age 22

01:17:15 Three questions from Eden for the unwanted

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