Talk About That
John Driver and Jonnie W
Spooky Houses, Old Pillows, and Leadership
March 12, 2026 ● 38 minShare this episode
John rents a haunted AirBnB and ponders podcasting from his deathbed. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries to be a better listener and discovers the terrifying reason he likes hotel pillows.
Plus, a conversation about what real leadership is… and what it isn't.
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Sliced Bread: "It's the best thing since…bread."
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Today's Devotional
A Prayer to Hold Fast When a Close Relationship Changes - Your Daily Prayer - August 12
Missions can change hands. Leaders can pass. But in the power of a close relationship that is based on honor, trust, and faith, God is always with you.
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