Talk About That
John Driver and Jonnie W
Spooky Houses, Old Pillows, and Leadership
March 12, 2026 ● 38 minShare this episode
John rents a haunted AirBnB and ponders podcasting from his deathbed. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries to be a better listener and discovers the terrifying reason he likes hotel pillows.
Plus, a conversation about what real leadership is… and what it isn't.
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Sliced Bread: "It's the best thing since…bread."
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Today's Devotional
A Prayer to Love Those Who Are Hard to Love - Your Daily Prayer - November 10
Loving others isn't always easy, especially when their words or actions leave us feeling hurt, frustrated, or misunderstood. But God calls us to extend the same patience, kindness, and grace He shows us every day.
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