Talk About That
John Driver and Jonnie W
Spooky Houses, Old Pillows, and Leadership
March 12, 2026 ● 38 minShare this episode
John rents a haunted AirBnB and ponders podcasting from his deathbed. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries to be a better listener and discovers the terrifying reason he likes hotel pillows.
Plus, a conversation about what real leadership is… and what it isn't.
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Sliced Bread: "It's the best thing since…bread."
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Today's Devotional
A Prayer to Remember Who You Are in Christ - Your Daily Prayer - May 13
We have the Lord who calls us by name and declares we are His. We can regularly turn to that truth to remember our identity and find courage to walk by faith the road He has marked for us.
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