John comes up with a brand new drug, and tells us about General Custer. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes on tour with Nate Bargatze in his hometown of Knoxville, triggering anxiety about bombing in front of old friends and family. 

Plus, a conversation about enlightenment and the balance between living our lives and sharing our lives. 

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