John avoids flying bread and questions whether the Apostle Paul was easy to get along with. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders his comedy origin story and tells the tale of the unfamous third man to walk on the moon.

Plus, a conversation about coincidence, providence, and all the things we thought we wanted, but are glad we didn't get.

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