
Talk About That
John Driver and Jonnie WFilibusters, IKEA Statues, & Justice
June 19, 2026 ● 45 minShare this episode
John passes a class without ever opening the textbook and ponders whether he used to preach too long. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders if train travel is really safe and tells the story of a gift from France that came unassembled—and the strange political path it took to become our symbol of freedom.
Plus, a conversation about justice, greatness, and the responsibility we have to one another.
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Boba Tea: "The most refreshing choking hazard."
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Today's Devotional
A Prayer to Love Those Who Are Hard to Love - Your Daily Prayer - November 10
Loving others isn't always easy, especially when their words or actions leave us feeling hurt, frustrated, or misunderstood. But God calls us to extend the same patience, kindness, and grace He shows us every day.
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