Talk About That
John Driver and Jonnie W
Filibusters, IKEA Statues, & Justice
June 19, 2026 ● 45 minShare this episode
John passes a class without ever opening the textbook and ponders whether he used to preach too long. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders if train travel is really safe and tells the story of a gift from France that came unassembled—and the strange political path it took to become our symbol of freedom.
Plus, a conversation about justice, greatness, and the responsibility we have to one another.
Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Boba Tea: "The most refreshing choking hazard."
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Today's Devotional
A Prayer to Hold Fast When a Close Relationship Changes - Your Daily Prayer - August 12
Missions can change hands. Leaders can pass. But in the power of a close relationship that is based on honor, trust, and faith, God is always with you.
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