Talk About That

Talk About That

John Driver and Jonnie W

Filibusters, IKEA Statues, & Justice

June 19, 2026   ●   45 min

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John passes a class without ever opening the textbook and ponders whether he used to preach too long. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders if train travel is really safe and tells the story of a gift from France that came unassembled—and the strange political path it took to become our symbol of freedom.

Plus, a conversation about justice, greatness, and the responsibility we have to one another.

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Boba Tea: "The most refreshing choking hazard."

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