John brings glowsticks to church and the crowd goes wild. Meanwhile, Jonnie rides in the back of a truck in January with a 300 lb television and tells the tale of Grandfather Frost.

Plus, a conversation about the dangers in striving for greatness and why we’re really happiest when we make our life about other people.

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