John reveals his least favorite candy and learns what beloved TV special killed the aluminum Christmas tree industry. Meanwhile, Jonnie has lunch with some comedian pals and tells the tale of the Pet Rock craze of the 1970s.

Plus, a conversation about red flags, toxic people, and how weaponized “therapy talk” has led to a loneliness epidemic.

Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Trail Mix: “It’s the healthiest way to eat a pound of M&M’s.”

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