Christianity.com: What popular misconceptions about hell appear today and in church history?-Michael Horton

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  • 2012-01-05T15:49:37

There are some people commenting here who are still arguing against what Jesus taught. Jesus taught that hell is real. He taught that it is eternal. He taught that it is torment and flames. Interesting how so many think they know more than Jesus did. Do the flames have to be upon you before you know they are real? Do you are I get to tell God how He has to act and what He has to do? Have we become so arrogant that we would presume to tell God what to do? Don't take one pet scripture out of context and twist it into what you want it to mean. Take the whole thing. Don't read it with your carnal mind. Ask Holy Spirit to reveal it to you. Without Him, you won't get the right meaning for anything and all you do is spew out vain arguments that show that you don't know God in the first place. Absolutely, when we speak about the truth of hell, there need to be tears. There is no getting out of there. There are thousands pouring into it every day. It makes me weep a lot, but it also motivates me to pray for others and not just the ones who are nice to me. I don't want anyone to go to that place and neither should you if you claim to follow Christ.

  • 2011-11-24T00:09:34

oh, you need to check this out! anyone who talk about hell without a tear in his eye doesn't know what hell is. unfortunately, many troop into it every day without any hope of ever leaving there. its eternity in unimaginable torment.pls, do everything in your power not to go there.

  • 2011-11-15T04:55:10

Thank you, Grigol Tsamalashvili for undermining the ignorance of baseless, traditional teachings concerning what the Bible says about Hell, and thank you for using your understanding of scripture to do so. What you posted is decisively more logical with regard to Almighty God who is omniscient and characterized primarily by love. How could a perfect, unchanging, omniscient, omnipotent deity create humans, allow humans to be tempted by Lucifer/ Satan,- [and for fellow free-thinkers who may be wanting to stop this question here, consider this: how would we know we had free will, if God had not allowed His creation/ humankind to disobey?]- allow them to multiply/ procreate with sinfulness in their nature by blood/ birth, send his one-born son to die for them, and then torment (physically or spiritually) all the individuals who didn't accept him, for eternity? It's not merely difficult to comprehend, but grossly illogical. God is not sadistic. He is Holy, however, & He's justified in not tolerating sinfulness. Therefore, w/ regard to those who refuse to accept Him (esp. His love & forgiveness), permanent elimination makes much more sense than perpetual torment. It's much more motivating to want to spend eternity w/ a loving, logical, holy diety who is much bigger in scope than we can comprehend, than it is to be afraid of a god of whom we can't make heads or tales. Instead of fearing punishment we can't understand, let us fear (revere) a god (the One epitomized by Christ) who wants what is ultimately best for us, and let us do so by equipping ourselves to love Him & others. P.S. see also: Mark 7:1-9, esp. verse 6

  • 2011-11-05T22:27:38

I personally wish there were no such place a hell or such a thing as the eternal torment of the damned. I really wish no such place or condition existed. BUT, if I really believe God's words, then I have to also believe that such a place exists. I see no way of getting around what the Bible itself seems to clearly teach. Jesus Christ Himself talked about the reality of a place called Hell more than He talked about a place called Heaven. The Lord Jesus tells us in Luke 12:5 "But I will forewarn you whom yes shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him." The Lord also told of the rich man in Luke 16 who lived a wicked life and then died, and was buried. "And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments" and was further told "remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented." Luke 16:23-25. Likewise I find no way that I can reasonably get around or explain away the verses found in the book of the Revelation where we read "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; AND HE SHALL BE TORMENTED WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of THEIR TORMENT ASCENDETH UP FOR EVER AND EVER: AND THEY HAVE NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." Revelation 14:9-11. Notice the text here does NOT say "the smoke of their extinction" or the "smoke of their annihilation" or "the smoke of their obliteration" but "the smoke of their TORMENT". Coupled with what we read in Revelation 20:10 "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, AND SHALL BE TORMENTED (the verb is plural, and includes the beast and the false prophet) DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER." These are extremely sobering verses and I have to take them at face value. After all, I am not God and He is and this is what He says in His words of absolute truth. In view of these stern warnings, if you have not done so already, I urge you to repent of your sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to save you from ever having to hear these awful words that shall be spoken to those who did not believe the gospel - "Depart from me, yes cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels...And these shall go away into EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT: but the righteous into life eternal." Matthew 25:41, 46. Will Kinney

  • 2011-11-05T07:20:56

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  • 2011-11-05T04:12:56

The Bible says hell is a FIT judgment for demons and unrepented sinners with the conscious, eternal torment. There is no mistake about it in the light of the whole text. God is love AND just. I don't worry about hell since our God is perfectly fair, and universalism is not true. A person gets saved only through faith in Jesus by God's grace. Personally, I don't want to suffer the ultimate result of all my sins even for a moment. God did everything for us. We must fear God, thank Him, and trust Him at His Word. Only evil humans, not innocent ones, reject the idea of eternal hell.

  • 2011-11-05T04:11:33

The Church and Christian missions deserves far more money from Christians in consideration of what they are doing all over the world - helping and rescuing everyone on its path. People use money on what is important to them. True Christian churches are not greedy but always unbelievably sacrificial in honoring God and in helping humans. The Bible says hell is a FIT judgment for demons and unrepented sinners with the conscious, eternal torment. There is no mistake about it. God is love AND just. I don't worry about hell since our God is perfectly fair, and universalism is not true. A person gets saved only through faith in Jesus by God's grace. Personally, I don't want to suffer the ultimate result of all my sins even for a moment. God did everything for us. We must fear God, thank Him, and trust Him at His Word. Only evil humans reject the idea of eternal hell.

  • 2011-11-04T15:15:35

Christ was sent to SAVE THE WORLD but the world of Christianity says NAY, NAY God is not able to save His creation and His son is to weak to do it. Christ said I have come to save those who are lost. And I for one believe this to be true. The church, however, cannot let go of the biggest money maker in their arsenal of scare tactics to bring people and their money into the church to buy their way into heaven. As far as Christ is concerned in regards to using the word hell it happened while speaking of the city dump, and the scribes miss-translated the word Gehenna into the word for grave "hell". The wickedness of the human heart cannot sink one centimeter lower than to believe in his heart that God Almighty, "THE SAVIOUR OF THE WHOLE WORLD, WHOSE MERCY ENDURES FOR ALL AGES," will torture most of humanity in fire for all eternity without mercy or salvation and then call it "JUSTICE," and then calmly state that "HELL....IS....FAIR!"

  • 2011-11-03T17:06:41

Very good commentary on Hell, today far to many church leaders ignore the subject. They have compromised the Gospel to fit a more social setting in the church. Hell is real and many good people are going to go their and that will include many people who think they are Christians who compromise sin to fit a life style they choose. Thanks for making the video. Please visit my website. www.apostlekenneth.org

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