Tithe Rap

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  • 2013-10-07T18:26:50

Would you mind to share how one could obtain a copy of the instrumental track?

  • 2013-04-07T22:48:45

Kent DelHousaye your message today was the best I've heard on the subject. Thought these guys might be the "Guest Worship Leaders" in today's service :-)

  • 2012-05-01T21:22:01

Cheryl, words right out of my mouth..

  • 2012-02-22T00:21:45

To sum it all up for everyone. WE DO NOT HAVE TO TITHE. WE ARE TO GIVE AS CHRISTIANS. We are no longer under the law of the old testament. Jesus abolished it when he died on the cross for us along with everything else. If you say that Jesus talks about tithing in the new testament, therefore you should still tithe, you are WRONG. Even in the new testament Jesus was still alive when he said these things to the Jews, they were still under the law of the old testament even Jesus, he was not talking to us the Christians. Jesus was born under the law and abided by the law so that he could fulfill his purpose and save all who were under the law and to save all who lived before Jesus came and did not know of him. If you are still tithing today to your church and pastor and not giving to where God has told you to give, you are not doing God's will. If God has told you to Give to the church to take care of the needs there than you are doing gods will. If you are tithing money to your church just because you were told to by man, or expect money in return, you are not doing Gods will. If you are still tithing to your church and pastor, and if your pastor and church teach you that you have to tithe 10% of your MONEY, and use old and new testament scriptures while Jesus was alive or before Jesus even came, to back their tithing scheme up, they are wrong. YOU ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY THE CHURCH AND THE PASTORS. They are misleading bible scriptures to GET YOUR MONEY.They are taken advantage of your obedient and sincere hearts and All because of YOUR lack of knowledge and not know Gods word which is the TRUTH. THEY WANT YOUR MONEY because people live off mans money system and you need money to get stuff, this is why they teach you that you should give 10% of your money, which is not even close to what the tithes of the old testament were for, they did not even tithe money. Seek God and he will tell you where, to who, how much, and what to give. Then Gods will it will be done. And both you and the people you give to will be blessed and all your needs will be met, and all GLORY GOES TO GOD!

  • 2012-02-21T23:10:55

I left this part out while posting my message to the message board! This paragraph follows my first post or first paragraph I posted- where it ends with I suggest you partake in ALL of them and not just some. Back to tithing- God has given us everything we need to live and survive off the land, we do not need money to buy anything God has supplied us with everything we need! WE choose not to live off the land and how God intended it, but we chose to live off the system man has designed, the money system, this is why you tithe money and want money in return, i mean be blessed with it lol. The love of Money is the root of all evil? Think how the world would be today if we lived the way God intended us to live and not off the money system, really think about that. What if there were no more money system and you couldn't buy all your materialist stuff, would you kill yourself, would you be able to survive without it all? You absolutely could, the lands still produces everything we need, and we could survive off of it, but us Christians have become way to accustom to our materialistic living, haven't we. Money makes the world go round. But wow there are still starving people out there and people whose needs are not being met, but we are quick to buy materialistic stuff for our own selfish wants, but wont lift a finger to do Gods will and take care of peoples needs. Imagine if we did Gods will and all peoples needs were met, how many peoples needs would be met with all the money spent on selfish materialistic desires? God does say its better to give than to receive right? As long as our needs are met we should be happy right?

  • 2012-02-21T21:47:03

Sadly, the most recent study of tithing in the church is less than 3% (I think it was 2.87% to be exact). So size really doesn't matter. I really didn't understand the first 1/2 of this comment about the spending...

  • 2012-02-21T21:41:55

Tithe literally means tenth. The tithe is 10%...it belongs to God. Anything above and beyond is offerings. It's clearing laid out in the Bible. The tithe is returned to God...returned because it's already His...always has, always will. Not arguing with you, I THINK I get what you mean on the sacrificial, but just wanted to clear up that the tithe really is only 10%. So if you "gave" 40%, 10% is designated as the tithe and the 30% is offerings.

  • 2012-02-21T21:17:03

Remember this, Gods plan is for us to seek him in where to give and to who and what to give and how much, if we do this than everyone's needs will be met as God intended. If you are only giving money to your church and expect the pastor to disburse the money everywhere that God has for each individual person specifically to disburse, it will never happen. Your pastor is ONE man and has his own ideas to where the money goes. If you think by giving your money to your pastor that hes going to take care of what God intended you to take care of, it will never happen, never. If we seek and listen to God to where he wants us to GIVE than EVERYONE/EVERYTHING he intends for us to give to will be taken care of. Including the churches/pastors. It does say in the new testament to give to the ones who are feeding you spiritually and that the pastors are to live off the church and their NEEDS are to be taken care of just like anyone else, but it doesn't say they or anyone else need a Bentley and mansions, we only need are needs met! Society tells us that we need to have these things to be important or to be blessed. Am I now trying to win the approval of men? Or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of God. Galatians 1:10, God wants his blessings to go to and then through people who are obedient and will do his will. This is how you get crazy blessed, if God can trust that his blessings are going through you to others to take care of their needs he will supply more than enough for you to do this. Your needs and and everyone’s needs will be met this way. If you think the only way to be blessed is by having millions of dollars and mansions and Bentleys and hog it all up for yourself, than you are not blessed but cursed and not doing Gods will. People who have a lot of money have it because of doing Gods will, or they are taking advantage of non knowledgeable people like churches do, or they get rich from mans money system. God will bless your socks off if you do it the right way, if it stops at the person, and goes no further than Gods blessings and plans cannot happen, he then will seek those who will be obedient and to do his will and know the truth. With all this said I pray that God opens your eyes and gives you revelation in all aspects of your lives so that you will know the truth in all things. Seek GOD on everything and no one else, remember MEN are sinners and what they teach out of the bible may not be from God or of God. men have their own demons and personally desires not of God and Satan will use this against people within the church as well, remember that. GIVE and help everyone so that everyone’s needs will be met, not just your own. Stay Blessed

  • 2012-02-21T21:15:48

CHRISTIANITY is NOT a religion it is your personal relationship with God. Man has categorized Christianity as a religion to compete with all the other religions of the world and separate it from other religions, its a pride thing. If you are apart of a denomination you are under religious teachings, this is what religious man thinks. This is why there is over 1500 denominations within Christianity, because man wont follow the foundation that God has provided for us with, but they branch off and start a religious denomination thinking its what God wants them to do or to please God, or they do it because they dont think the way God set it up is good enough. Over 1500 denominations were created because man makes up his own ideas then another man comes along and doesn’t agree with that mans ideas so he branches off and starts his own religious denominational beliefs. Stop listening to mans ideas and thoughts and religious beliefs and start doing God's! God has set the foundation for us and that’s all we have to go by. All we need is Gods word and to seek him for the truth in everything, get yourself in a non-denominational church, stay away from religion. The bible says to stay in Christ, then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown from here to there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead speak the truth in love we will in all things grow up into him who is the head, that is Christ. From him the whole body joined and held together by every ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work. Ephesians 4:14-16, if we do this and trust in God and seek God and the truth only then everyone will do their part and everyone’s needs will be met!

  • 2012-02-21T21:14:56

Today we are to GIVE as a Christian, but only to where God tells us to give what to give and how much . If we are obedient in this way than everyone will be taken care of. This also does not mean money and only to the church! Seek God on it and he will direct you. People today are so confused about tithing, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TITHE! YOU GIVE! People these churches are NOT trusting in God for their needs, they are trusting in your money, they are trusting in people with sincere hearts to take care of all their needs, they want your money, that's why they teach old testament teachings and flip it to make you think you have to give 10% of your money! You are being taking ADVANTAGE OF by these churches who supposedly preach Gods word! Again it says no where in the bible that you have to give or tithe 10% of your money. These pastors look like they're blessed because they have your money, they are paying there bills and buying everything they need and want with YOUR MONEY. If you are paying your tithes to receive your blessing than you are ABSOLUTEY WRONG again. Jesus has done everything for us when he died on the cross, and everything he did for us is free, why do you feel that you have to pay God for something he has already given us and not to mention that it is FREE! Your blessings and everything God has for you and wants you to do is already here, all you have to do is receive it! So many people are taught RELIGION/TRADITIONS/ AND HEAR SAY, and NOT the word of God. People teach religion which is theri ideas like its what God wants, it is not, everything God wants for us is in his word the bible. Matthew 15:8-9 sums religion up for you. These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they worship me in vain, their teachings are but rules taught by men. Remember

  • 2012-02-21T21:14:07

When the JEWS TITHED under the law they were to give 10% of their crops of the land and cattle NOT money. People did have have money back then, but was not required to tithe it. If someone did tithe money instead of crops and cattle they were charged a fee of 5%. If someone had only 8 cows they did not have to tithe unless they had 10 cows. Therefore if you do happen to tithe today(even though you don't have to) and you don't have enough money to eat or pay your bills then you don't have to tithe, that's just common sense. Your gonna pay your pastors bills but not your own? People I know you have sincere and obedient hearts for the Lord but imagine if you were sincere and obedient in the way God intended it. WOW how many peoples needs would be met. GLORY TO GOD! Also the tithe was so that the storehouse would have food. They also took up a tithe for the poor and the widows. But of course you already new that right? Also you did not give your tithe every single time you step into the storehouse like people think they need to do today, it was twice a year for your basic tithe, and every 3 years for the widows and poor. Just to remind you they were not tithing money to the storehouse, or the poor, or the widows, keep that in mind. Wow did we forget about the poor and widows or did we just over look it., that the tithe was for widows and the poor as well as the storehouse. If your going to tithe than do it the right way, Make sure everyone is taken care of and not just the church and pastors.

  • 2012-02-21T21:13:47

If we were under law to tithe- Where does it say in the BIBLE that you have to tithe money? Can you tithe your time? What about tithing your voice? Or tithing anything other than money. Why do people thing the biggest and only blessing or way to tithe is money? Money is how you purchase things today that's why everything is focused around money. This is why people think they need to give money to churches and as a tithe. Or you could live off the land how God intended it to be. Regardless you do not have to tithe today, who and where does it say that you have to tithe 10% of your money in the bible? I know! Man designed this to keep up with today's money system! Money is what we need to get things nowadays? Or again live off the land and all your needs will be met, you won't need money. BELOW IS EXACTLY WHAT THE TITHE WAS INTENDED FOR IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.........

  • 2012-02-21T21:13:07

Back to tithing- God has given us everything we need to live and survive off the land, we do not need money to buy anything God has supplied us with everything we need! WE choose not to live off the land and how God intended it, but we chose to live off the system man has designed, the money system, this is why you tithe money and want money in return, i mean be blessed with it lol. The love of Money is the root of all evil? Think how the world would be today if we lived the way God intended us to live and not off the money system, really think about that. What if there were no more money system and you couldn't buy all your materialist stuff, would you kill yourself, would you be able to survive without it all? You absolutely could, the lands still produces everything we need, and we could survive off of it, but us Christians have become way to accustom to our materialistic living, haven't we. Money makes the world go round. But wow there are still starving people out there and people whose needs are not being met, but we are quick to buy materialistic stuff for our own selfish wants, but wont lift a finger to do Gods will and take care of peoples needs. Imagine if we did Gods will and all peoples needs were met, how many peoples needs would be met with all the money spent on selfish materialistic desires? God does say its better to give than to receive right? As long as our needs are met we should be happy right?

  • 2012-02-21T21:11:34

Richard Bolt Richard Bolt Richard Bolt and to Everyone, I mean this in a loving christian way, don't get offended people. WAKE UP - read the word of God (the bible) and seek God for the truth, a lot of people read their bibles through mans eyes and see ink and words, seek God and revelation to read God's word through the spirit. Do not trust or believe what your pastor says or what your human eyes read about tithing or anything. Read for yourselves and seek God for the truth about tithing and all aspects of your life. You will know the difference -SORRY MY FRIENDS, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TITHE!!!! Richard Bolt- Jesus did say he came to fulfill the law not to abolish it, but when did he say this? And to who? He said this to the Jews under the law in the old testament. Jesus was still alive and under the law when he said this. Jesus said that because he was alive during the law when talking to the Jews, so that he could save the people under the law and to abide by the law while he was alive. Once Jesus died on the cross, the law and our sins, tithing, and everything was taken care of for EVERYONE, This is the very reason Jesus was crucified outside of the gates of Jerusalem, he died for the WORLD/ EVERYONE and not just for the Jews. If he was crucified with in the Jerusalem walls he would of only died for the Jews. The law and tithing and rules was a system that God set up for people to live by before Jesus came. Once Jesus died on the cross those laws and tithing laws were abolished. Everything is new, just like us when we are saved. All those laws and tithing laws where for the Jews and NOT for Christians of today. When God spoke to people he spoke to the Jews and to Israel, why do people think he was talking to us? Jesus was talking to the Jews and to Israel in all the scriptures before he died. It's because of the Jews denying Christ that us Gentiles even have an opportunity to be saved. This is why Jesus says I come to PREPARE a place for you in my fathers house. Before the Jews denied Christ we did not have a place in heaven, or Jesus would have said a place was already made for us. Now that Jesus died everything is new, we need to seek him for the new way of living in all aspects. The bible tells us everything in how to live as new creatures after Jesus Died for us. We need to start living that way and seeking the truth from GOD alone. If we are still under the lawWhich we are not) than i suggest everyone start abiding by all the old testament laws and not just abide certain ones that benefit them, likr tithing and being blessed back with money. We ought to sacrifice animals and our children, God should destroy cities with one swoop, because people are pretty bad nowadays. By the grace of God and sending Christ to die for our sins and the laws and everything, we are no longer under the laws of the old testament. And if you still believe that we are under those laws than I suggest you partake in ALL of them and not just some!

  • 2011-12-25T07:04:47

Ha... Didn't think so many Jesus followers were so concerned about money! You guys sound like a bunch of bankers and salesmen. Give what you can, not what u don't have.

  • 2011-11-18T04:03:51

This is not funny.

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