In this honest and heartfelt conversation, for KING & COUNTRY open up about how their journey with Jesus has grown and deepened through every season of life.

From childhood faith to adult struggles, they talk about embracing the mystery of God, learning not to take grace for granted, and discovering fresh mercy every morning. Joel shares how perfectionism, shame, and the pressure to “do it right” are met with overwhelming redemption and love — and how that truth continues to shape both his life and his music.

It’s also why their songs take time. For them, the lyrics aren’t imagined — they’re lived. The highest highs, the lowest lows, family, faith, and real-life moments all become the soundtrack behind the music they create.

Because at the end of the day, they’re not chasing catchy songs — they’re chasing songs that change lives.