An atheist, John McWhorter, with a stunning capacity for honesty with the evidence, interviews Michael Behe about his book, The Edge of Evolution, and Intelligent Design in general
The Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism
For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, 'even' his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse: