• 2011-12-05T20:01:56

I would add this point to the discussion; we must remember that there will be the wheat and the tares growing together until the harvest (Matt 13:30). All in the church are not saved. All coming into the church will meet up with either a "wheat" person or "tare" person. That makes all the difference in the world how the person asking for help will respond. God will never change, but we will if me want to be with Him forever.

  • 2011-12-05T00:02:10

AMEN !!! Running this race for the glory of our Lord!!! Thank you brother Benjamin for your godly walk.

  • 2011-12-04T22:47:51

Jim Loeffert do we not have to take the gift that God has offered us? Let’s first define legalism as trying to be righteous before a holy God with our works, to have a relationship with God based on our merits. And let’s define salvation as rejuvenation, justification, repentance, sanctification, glorification and rejuvenation, justification, and repentance not necessarily in that order. And if I understand you correctly you are saying that I have no part in repentance or sanctification? Do I not surrender my will and my life into the Fathers care? Also let’s not forget faith without work is dead. Can dead faith save us? We have a part to play and God has His part and Jesus did His part and the Holy Spirit is doing His part. No one can come to the Father except those that come through the son Jesus the Christ. I don’t do anything to get something (right standing) but I do them because I love Him.

  • 2011-12-04T14:03:01

Benjamin Brown Exactly

  • 2011-12-03T16:55:58

This reminds me of the verses James 3:9-10. Praising and cursing should not come from the same mouth! This should not be! Now for those who think that these stories are rare occurences, thinking that their Church is a great safe place, I ask you to think again. Open your eyes to those who are being rejected, condemned and left out. I can relate wtih 3 of these stories as being similar to how me and my family has been treated. This should not be! My wife has a hard time trusting people. I convinced her to trust the people in the Church we attended, only to have them condemn her, condemn me, and have our four children ripped from our arms and given to her very abusive parents. Rather than her learning to trust the Church, I have learned to not trust the Church! I beg you out there, if you attend Church, to open your eyes to what is happening. To change it, so that the Church is a safe place, a place of acceptance, of forgiveness, that the Church is sanctuary. That the Church is home. So me and my wife will no longer have to fear the church, and we won't have to be alone anymore.. Neo... www.iamneo.org

  • 2011-12-03T14:43:59

Ellen Christine Smith - Amen! Legalism is a huge problem, especially in American churches. Anyone, who says SALVATION, has ANY thing..... to do with something 'we' 'do', is not 'getting it'! IT IS A GIFT! If my Eternal Destiny, depends on anything other than His death, burial, and His rising from the dead, I AM DOOMED! Praise God Jesus Christ Finished it all, and we can freely accept the GIFT of Salvation!

  • 2011-12-03T13:48:43

Judge the sin...not the sinner. For "ALL have sinned and come short..." Jesus came to forgive sinners and set them free, not cast them aside, unless they are unrepentant...judging sinners is God's job...not ours. "He who is without sin, cast the first stone".

  • 2011-12-03T04:57:41

Susan Moss Jenkins: But Susan, Matthew 7 :1-2 said, " Judge not, that ye be not judge.For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what manner ye mete, it shall be measured to you also."

  • 2011-12-03T02:04:48

God forgive us!

  • 2011-12-02T22:58:26

Absolutely, I agree that we as Christians are not to be judgemental, self-righteous prigs. God did not call us to be haughty. But I think at times we misunderstand what judgement is. If we condemn someone with the attitude that we ourselves are incapable of that sin, and we decide what should happen to them before God, we are judging. However, if we are calling a spade a spade, i.e., naming adultery for what it is, murder, etc., with the attitude of coming alongside the person who is struggling, that is brotherly love. We have to be careful with how we use the word 'judge', because in today's moral relativism, it has become a no-no word even in the Body of Christ. Loving our brothers and sisters means speaking the Truth in love but calling them to repentence, not turning away because we're afraid of what people might think of us; not turning away because to do otherwise might make us Christians look mean and bad. We are going to offend most of the world. That's a given. We are to be above reproach. That's a given. We are not, most of the time, above reproach. But we don't look aside when there is a serious problem. Speak it, name it, IN LOVE.

  • 2011-12-02T21:44:22

And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us....Thank you Jesus for reminding us that none of us are without sin, and it you alone who saves all of us! AMEN

  • 2011-12-02T21:33:16

Amy, Jesus doesn’t condemn anyone, and nor do I, but a person’s is condemned by their actions. I hope that you do believe in a place of eternal torment, which has been set aside for those that don’t believe, don’t trust and don’t follow Jesus the Christ. Jesus loved her so much that he not only saved her from the mob that wanted to stone her but provided her a way into the presence of almighty God forever. Please remember this is a video meant to stir emotions, your assuming it is real. When I was a brand new Christian I had the head of the Board of Deacons ask me to leave the church. “All things work out for the good of those that love Him.” Anybody can find an excuse not to follow Him and not to be a part of His Church, but if you love Him then nothing will prevent you from following Him and being a part of His Church. That mob was not a part of Gods Church and neither was she, but none the less, Jesus cared for that mob just as much as He did for that woman. Yes, Jesus did judge the Church and so did Paul (1 Corinthians 5). John 3:16 says for whoever believes and that includes the Pharisees, Sadducees, and the woman caught in adultery. God doesn’t want to just change one person but all people. I don’t know about you, but I take no pleasure in judging others, as a matter of fact it pains me to see someone in sin. For the wages of sin is death, we are all deserving death, that includes me. But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus.

  • 2011-12-02T21:32:30

It seems all people tend to pre-judge others - which is wrong. They should be trying to help and to be helped to undersand eachother. Love try brethern like you love Jesus and God...

  • 2011-12-02T20:24:54

Amen Elizabeth Meakings. Well said. We are on the same page.... God's page!!! :)

  • 2011-12-02T20:22:26

well said Pastor Benjamin.

  • 2011-12-02T20:13:03

Dear Ellen, first of all, I am neither upset nor mad; I truly love to talk about Gods Word. If we love Him we will love truth. We have all been wrong at times and the Holy Spirit which is our teacher will point out our faults and misunderstanding through and with the Word, God also uses teacher and fellow brothers in Christ in love to point out our misunderstandings and faults. That doesn’t mean it is always going to feel good. This video is not about evangelism but about judging. I would be glad to talk about evangelism separately. 1 Corinthians 5 is a great place to start for the topic of judging. It says we are not to judge those outside the body of Christ, which is very clear. Now if we see a brother or sister in Christ in sin then we are to first examine ourselves and to remove the sin in our lives. (Why is it so important to remove sin from our lives? Sin hinders the Holy Spirit which is the one that bring about conviction. We as followers of Christ cannot bring about conviction and if we try it becomes condemnation.) Then we go privately to that person and if they deny or reject the correction then you take another brother with wisdom with you and try to bring repentance with the word of God in love. If they continue in that life style or sin then you break fellowship with that person until they come to repentance. Also understand if someone is in sin and they are looking for help it is our job and duty to them as a brother to help, to guide, to protect and to pray with them through their struggles. If we have gotten comfortable to the darkness and someone shines a bright light in our eyes, will we not recoil from the light? The longer someone stays in darkness the harder it is for them to except the light. The walk of faith gets messy. Thank God for His word and to those that teach and preach the truth.

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