WWE Baptism Super Dunk!



  • 2012-10-20T03:32:58

I just don't think it the place to put kids struggles on the internet. Yes he might be fine now but jus imagine what he feels like that hunderds of people laugh at his struggle.

  • 2012-10-20T00:46:00

Judy. I was baptized there back in November. Before we were baptized, we met with the Pastor and he explained to us fully what we were going to do. He knew what was happening, just a little afraid of the water.

  • 2012-10-04T22:42:13

I remember being terrified when I got baptized. But it was because I couldn't swim and was afraid of going under the water. It didn't stop me from doing it. I as a 21 year old was able to hold my composure long enough to get through it, but my pastor said he could tell I was very tense going under. The wonderfully feeling coming up made up for the tenseness going down. That may have been the situation with little Ethan. I say, good for him, he felt that he wanted and needed to be baptized, and went for it. WAY TO GO Ethan!

  • 2012-09-15T15:32:08

Hi Adam, I'm not trying to be confrontation, and I'm sorry if I offended you. I agreed with how the Gospel Coalition phrased the gospel, which is why I used the quote, but I have no ties with them, only yesterday did I see the statement of faith or hear about them. Nevertheless, it seems a good representation of the gospel. I am glad to see you said "the cross of Jesus and his sacrificed saves us and we cannot add (or takeaway) from that." I totally agree! I also agree with you that many kids don't understand and that baptism should wait, in most circumstances. I also agree with you that baptism does not impart salvation. Rejoicing in the the Savior, Christine

  • 2012-09-15T12:51:12

Christine - hmph. I am almost getting tired of this thread and having to defend views and statements I make. Have we met? You say you know me, and I am sorry if we know each other and have forgotten you :-) Baptism doesn't save. The man on the cross with JEsus didn't recieve the BAptism of Christ. Many martys for the cause over the years the same. The Catholic view of salvation gets mixed up with Protestant Dogma on this. When a baby dies, they believe a priest has to come and baptise the body, or it'll go to limbo (a place in between). Protestantism moved FAR away from this view, but America has brought back a certain amount of this teaching by baptising children. I DON'T believe that the majority of kids know what they are doing when they get baptised. Not to take away from your baptism as a kid. If you had died at the age of 4, where would you have gone? A decision is made to give your life to Christ before you are ever Baptised (unless, like with the Ethiopian in Acts) they kinda happoen at the same time. You recieved the 'cirmumcision of the heart' and the mark of Christ is on you. Baptism is a sacrement, a ritual, for want of a better word, and in itself has no power to save. The cross of Jesus and his sacrificed saves us and we cannot add (or takeaway) from that. Baptism is a way of confirming your decision and being symbolically buried with Christ (much as the bread and wine is only symbolically his body and blood - unless you are CAtholic, in which case you believe this also saves you on a weekly basis as you Crucify Christ over and over). Anyway, not wanting to argue. I believe I have a wider view than your American one, but I am also saying that I am not saying you're wrong (I said this before, but you seem to take this thread very personally) but I just don't agree with your statement. Throwing American doctrinal writings at me haven't swayed my views in any way as I don't recognise the authority of this earthly coalition you call the 'Gospel Coalition' to define my faith. Always in Love, Adam Mold

  • 2012-09-15T04:00:34

Hi Adam Mold, I'm kind of concerned with your phrase "the decision to follow Christ for your whole life" because you did not include the gospel. Perhaps this was just an oversight on your part. Since I don't know you, however, I am posting from the Gospel Coalition statement of faith: "the gospel is not proclaimed if Christ is not proclaimed, and the authentic Christ has not been proclaimed if his death and resurrection are not central (the message is: "Christ died for our sins . . . [and] was raised”). This good news is biblical (his death and resurrection are according to the Scriptures), theological and salvific (Christ died for our sins, to reconcile us to God), historical (if the saving events did not happen, our faith is worthless, we are still in our sins, and we are to be pitied more than all others), apostolic (the message was entrusted to and transmitted by the apostles, who were witnesses of these saving events), and intensely personal (where it is received, believed, and held firmly, individual persons are saved)." In my case, I was very young when I understood that I had sinned against a holy God and that Jesus had taken the place of my punishment. When I turned to him to cleanse me from sin and become my Savior and God, He saved me.

  • 2012-09-13T12:57:49

I never said that Jesus forbade kids coming to him. In fact, where I am from, there is definately NOT enough things going on in church to engage children, and it's frustrating (I have a 5yr old myself). But Jesus didn't command to baptise kids, so lets not over interpret what was a peice of teaching used by Christ in a completely different context. Also, let this not be a 'let's bash Adam Mold' thread. I said I think the kid is crying, based on experience I don't think I should be attacked for my own observations. I DO stand by the fact though that kids at the age of five have NO idea what life is going to throw at them. I posted earlier that there are far more grown ups baptised as children who stray than stay - which suggests life threw a few curve balls that at the age of five they couldn't count predict. I also think that if you attribute a child with the maturity to get baptised at five, then you should also let him marry at five, becasue surely you don't think that following Christ and the decisions it involves require less maturity than who you want to live with? I am not condemning your views, I just don't share them. I've been around a bit and seen the way different countries operate their belief system inside the frames of Christianity and BAptism of children is definately a culture thing, not a biblical thing - which is not to say you are wrong to do so. I just don't agree with it.

  • 2012-09-13T12:40:44

Andy Peacock Matthew 5:18 says: "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Jesus Christ's death replaced the law of Moses which is why we don't sacrifice lambs anymore since Jesus is the lamb, but rather we pray and ask for forgiveness. But the 10 commandments were never abolished. The 10 commandments represent God's Character. Why would God abolish the commandments when it make absolutely no sense to? Read all the 10 commandments and think to yourself, "All these commandments reflect love, which is God's Character. Why would he abolish this?" This is not to say that we should get confused in legalism like the Jews would in the Gospels. They followed the law by the letter, without expressing love. The law must still be followed out of love... because you love God and all the people He placed on this earth. Not because you are trying to get a ticket into heaving like the Jews did in the Gospels.

  • 2012-09-12T22:41:19

I don't know why the post about started with "Adam Mold" . Sorry about that. Somehow the computer copied his name there. Oh well, we all know it was JESUS who said to let the little children come unto Him and not to forbid them.

  • 2012-09-12T22:39:17

Adam Mold Jesus said "Let the little children come unto Me..." I was just as much saved at 5 years as I am today. Nothing different happened. I knew I was a sinner and headed for hell and prayed to the Lord while in my bedroom that what He did on the cross would apply to me. I also remember quoting John 14:6 in my prayer and telling God that I was coming to Him through Jesus. The memory has stayed with me for 36 years and He became my Savior that day and is still my same Savior today. The Bible doesn't say John 3:16 and other salvation verses only apply to older people. It never gives an exact year of when a child can understand and be saved. If a child comes to God as a repentant sinner and places faith in the completed work of Christ, will God NOT save the child? I don't see that when a child believes, he or she is prevented from salvation. Heb. 7:25 "He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him..." However, I do agree that many kids have prayed and yet not understood or for whatever reason, true faith was not placed in Christ, and have never had saving faith, yet acted as though they did for a while. I know several who grew up with me who later evidenced no faith in Christ. But false conversions also happen to adults. The gospel needs to be preached to all, and trust Him to bring to conviction and faith as He chooses.

  • 2012-09-10T17:55:47

I don't think the kid was being forced to get baptized, I just think he didn't want to go under the water. I don't think the pastor should have shoved him under. Kinda mean

  • 2012-09-10T05:47:14

That's right because the thief on the cross was not baptized and Jesus said,"You shall be with me in Paradise".

  • 2012-09-09T23:07:22

This was not a forced baptism. He was fully aware he was going to be baptized, and what it means. The problem was he was afraid of water. His father and his other sibling were also baptized the same day.

  • 2012-09-09T06:55:08

Betsy Please support your statement with scripture! And please read Mark 16:16 where Jesus has spoken. And read 1 Peter 3:20-21(Please explain) 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

  • 2012-09-08T01:35:37

Adam Mold i watched this video over after reading what u wrote about the boy crying. I didnt see that, i seen a boy wiping water out of his eyes. I think he wanted to be baptized but got nervous about being dunked under water. please rewatch this video, i would hate for you to misinterpret this. Being baptized is very special, rejoice for this boy.

  • 2012-09-07T20:09:51

Many will be lost? Please be more careful with your words. This is the kind of legalism that draws people away from pure, free, salvation! Baptism doesn't save us and never has. jesus Christ alone saves us and baptism proves to others that we have asked to be born again into new life with Jesus Christ. The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit are One God. The only true God. amen.

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